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Fix It Friday Ep. 32 - Patterns Aren’t Predictions: The Extrapolation Mistake

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Welcome to Fix-It Friday, the podcast segment that simplifies financial strategies to help you make smarter decisions hosted by Jonathan Blau, CEO of Fusion Family Wealth. This episode explores one of the most common behavioral investing mistakes: extrapolation. Jonathan explains why recent market performance—whether exceptionally strong or disappointingly weak—doesn't predict what comes next. He breaks down the difference between recognizing patterns and assuming those patterns forecast the future, while highlighting behavioral biases like recency bias, framing bias, denominator neglect, and the misuse of mean reversion. Through real market examples and the fascinating "horse manure crisis" analogy, Jonathan shows why disciplined investors stay focused on long-term compounding instead of trying to predict short-term market movements.

 

  • Past market performance is not a reliable predictor of future returns.

  • Mean reversion is a long-term concept—not a short-term forecasting tool.

  • Behavioral biases often tempt investors to abandon disciplined investing.

  • Successful investing depends on consistency and long-term compounding, not market predictions. 

Disclaimer: [00:00:00] The following podcast by Fusion Family Wealth LLC, Fusion, is intended for general information purposes only. No [00:00:05] portion of the podcast serves as the receipt of, or as a substitute for, personalized investment advice from Fusion or any other investment professional of your choosing. [00:00:10] Please see additional important disclosure at the end of this podcast.

A copy of Fusion's current written disclosure brochure discussing our advisory [00:00:15] services and fees is available upon request or at www.fusionfamilywealth.com.

Jonathan Blau: Welcome to another [00:00:20] episode of the Crazy Wealthy podcast, Fix It Friday edition. So today, I'm gonna talk [00:00:25] about patterns, and particularly the way we perceive patterns and how that [00:00:30] perception can cause us to make a very critical investment mistake.

And the title of today's [00:00:35] Fix It Friday is Patterns Aren't Predictions: The Extrapolation Mistake.[00:00:40]

Voiceover: Welcome to the [00:00:45] Crazy Wealthy Podcast with your host, Jonathan Blau. Whether you're just starting [00:00:50] out or are an experienced investor, join Jonathan as he seeks to [00:00:55] illuminate and demystify the complexities of making consistently rational financial [00:01:00] decisions under conditions of uncertainty. He'll chat with professionals from the advice [00:01:05] world, entrepreneurs, executives, and more to share fresh perspectives [00:01:10] on making sound decisions that maximize your wealth.

And now, here's your [00:01:15] host.

Jonathan Blau: So let's start with a [00:01:20] question. If the stock market has gone up about fifteen percent a year in the past, uh, [00:01:25] six years or so, does that mean that the next six years are likely to be bad? [00:01:30] That's what a very smart and successful client asked me recently, and it sounds [00:01:35] logical. But today's Fix It Friday is about why that conclusion, while intuitive, is [00:01:40] actually one of the most dangerous mistakes an investor can make, because it's based on something [00:01:45] called extrapolation, and extrapolation is a long-term killer of [00:01:50] compounding.

So here's what's happening. Someone looks at the last five or six years, sees very [00:01:55] strong returns, and concludes, "Hey, returns have been really high, above average, so they must [00:02:00] now be due to go on a streak that's below average going forward. Let me change my [00:02:05] portfolio accordingly." And that sounds like analysis, but it's not.

It's extrapolation. [00:02:10] And it doesn't just show up in one direction. If we flip it around, you'll hear the mirror image [00:02:15] just as often. "We've lagged in our returns for the last five years in the markets, so now we're [00:02:20] probably due for a big bounce. Let me change my portfolio in anticipation [00:02:25] of outsized returns."

Same insti-- st- same instinct, same trap, just [00:02:30] pointed the other direction Extrapolation is when we take a real pattern we see [00:02:35] in past returns and make the leap that it implies a predictable [00:02:40] future path, and that's the key, key word is predictable. Investors tend to do this in [00:02:45] two common ways. The first is after a strong period of recent returns, people [00:02:50] say, "We're ahead of average, so now we must be due for lower returns."

The second is after weaker [00:02:55] long-term returns, people say, "We're behind average, so we must be due for higher returns to catch up." [00:03:00] Both of those ideas are rooted in something real, and it's called mean reversion. [00:03:05] Here's a simple way to think about it. Mean reversion is the idea that if returns come in below [00:03:10] or above their long-term average for a period of time, at some point, returns [00:03:15] would have to come in higher or lower to bring that long-term average back in line.

[00:03:20] So I'll give you an example. If returns were five percent for a period of time and the long-term [00:03:25] average has been 10%, you would need a period of higher returns at some point to [00:03:30] get back to that long-term average of 10%. That's a useful long-term observation. [00:03:35] But here's where things go wrong. Investors take that concept and turn it into a short-term [00:03:40] forecast.

They assume, "Hey, we're above average, so now we must go below," [00:03:45] or, "We're below average, so now we must go above." But mean reversion doesn't work on our [00:03:50] timeline. It doesn't tell us when it happens. It doesn't tell us how it happens, [00:03:55] meaning when the returns of the long-term average is gonna be occurring and, and how it's [00:04:00] gonna happen.

So mean reversion tells us something about long-term outcomes. It tells us [00:04:05] nothing about what happens next, and that's where investors make the biggest mistake. [00:04:10] And this is where a few behavioral biases sneak in. So one is called framing [00:04:15] bias. It's when we cherry-pick a timeframe to make it look like the facts currently [00:04:20] support the narrative we already believe.

Start the clock in 2020 and [00:04:25] recent returns look unsustainably high, and we feel like we must be due [00:04:30] for an immediate reversion period where, where returns are gonna be lower than they have been. Start that [00:04:35] clock in 2000 and the story flips completely, and I'll explain why [00:04:40] in another couple of minutes Recency bias is where we overweight [00:04:45] what just happened, and we let it drive longer-term expectations and [00:04:50] decisions.

The last twelve months feel more real to us than the last twelve [00:04:55] years, even though they matter far less to a twenty-year plan. So we look at [00:05:00] recent periods and extrapolate from that into the future. Denominator [00:05:05] neglect, this is an important one. We treat a short window of time, meaning the [00:05:10] last five years, like it's meaningful.

Five or six years feels like a long stretch to live through. [00:05:15] It's a rounding error in a thirty-year or even multi-generational investment horizon. [00:05:20] Another example I like to use of denominator neglect is when you hear the media try to scare [00:05:25] us, which is one of their jobs, so we can click on their stories and increase their ad revenues.

Uh, the-- [00:05:30] today, they'll say that the Dow Jones is down a thousand points, and that sounds awfully scary. [00:05:35] But the denominator, which is the current level of the Dow, not just the numerator, the [00:05:40] thousand points, is fifty-two thousand. So now it's a thousand points down over [00:05:45] the denominator of fifty-two thousand.

That's less than a two percent decline. Fairly [00:05:50] common in the markets But if you take a look back in April of [00:05:55] twenty twenty when the Dow Jones average was twenty-one thousand, uh, the same thousand-point [00:06:00] decline is about five percent or more, so that's much more meaningful. By neglecting a [00:06:05] denominator, in this case, the level of the Dow at twenty-one thousand in twenty twenty [00:06:10] or at fifty-two thousand today, that same thousand-point scare tactic that the media [00:06:15] uses by intentionally neglecting the denominator where the Dow is can be awfully scary [00:06:20] when it shouldn't be.

So a two percent decline versus a five percent decline is very different, [00:06:25] but a thousand points sounds scary when they don't include the denominator, no matter what the [00:06:30] percentage is. So den-denominator neglect is, is, is a big, uh, behavioral, um, [00:06:35] foible that we need to avoid. Mean reversion misuse, turning a long-term tendency [00:06:40] into a short-term prediction.

It's the difference between knowing winter eventually comes and [00:06:45] knowing whether it starts next Tuesday or next Thursday. Put those together, and we [00:06:50] don't just observe patterns. We start believing those patterns can tell us what comes next [00:06:55] or can predict the future. So let's pressure test this with real numbers.

Look [00:07:00] across rolling multi-year periods for the market going back decades. Some strong [00:07:05] stretches were followed by more strong years. Some weak stretches were followed by more [00:07:10] weak years. Others reversed entirely. There's no reliable rule that says strong [00:07:15] periods have to be followed by weak ones or the other way around.

The only consistent [00:07:20] finding is that recent performance by itself tells us nothing about what will [00:07:25] happen next. That's not a hunch. That's just what the data shows. So let's change the frame [00:07:30] now, as I promised. Let's look back, and instead of starting in twenty twenty, let's go [00:07:35] back to the end of nineteen ninety-nine.

Now we're looking at a much broader period that goes back [00:07:40] about twenty-five years rather than five or six. Over that twenty-five-year period, the [00:07:45] S&P five hundred with dividends had returned about eight percent a year. The [00:07:50] long-term average for the S&P five hundred is over ten percent a year. So using the [00:07:55] exact same logic, you could say we're behind average, so now we must be due for higher [00:08:00] returns to catch up.

Because for the last twenty-five years, we've made eight, the long-term returns are [00:08:05] actually twenty-five percent higher, going at ten percent a year, right? So, so, [00:08:10] so that would be the wrong conclusion, and it's no different than saying based on the recent [00:08:15] five or six years' returns, the market has to go lower.

Same kind of thing. [00:08:20] Extrapolating up or down leads to the same mistake. It creates a false sense that we, we [00:08:25] can predict what's about to come next, and that belief leads to decisions that can interrupt, [00:08:30] and often do interrupt, the investor's compounding. The direction of the extrapolation is [00:08:35] not what's important, but the damage that it causes is what is.

Context also [00:08:40] matters. In that twenty-five-year period, the market declined about fifty percent twice, [00:08:45] from two thousand to 'oh two and from two thousand seven to 'oh nine. That was actually a sixty percent decline. [00:08:50] Events that historically happen once or twice in a century happen [00:08:55] twice in less than a single decade.

So depending upon where you start the clock, you'll [00:09:00] see a different pattern. The pattern is real, but it doesn't make the future predictable. [00:09:05] Here's the real danger. Extrapolation drives decisions, and those decisions can [00:09:10] interrupt compounding. After strong patterns, people often pull back. After disappointing [00:09:15] patterns, people Try to reposition.

In both cases, they're [00:09:20] acting on a belief that the past tells them what the future will be. Compounding doesn't require [00:09:25] prediction. It requires discipline in the face of uncertainty to stay on the long-term plan. I'm [00:09:30] gonna share a little extrapolation story that I always felt was, uh, instructive. In, in the late [00:09:35] 1800s, there was something going on in cities like New York and London.

It was a [00:09:40] growing problem and actually considered to be an existential crisis, and it was called [00:09:45] the horse manure crisis of the 1890s. Everything depended on horses. Experts looked [00:09:50] at that pattern. The-- more horses every year, horses for taxi cabs, horses [00:09:55] for buses, horses for, uh, farming, et cetera. You name it, there were horses doing, [00:10:00] uh, doing most of the heavy duty tasks.

And they extrapolated the pattern forward. They [00:10:05] concluded cities would be buried in horse manure in short order. And it [00:10:10] wasn't a fringe worry. Newspapers ran serious pieces on it. You can Google it. City [00:10:15] planners lost sleep over it. It was treated as a near certainty, not a [00:10:20] possibility. There was even one of the first international conferences called in New York [00:10:25] to address these issues.

It was shut down in a matter of days because the entire [00:10:30] consortium who was debating it deemed that the problem was unsolvable. They [00:10:35] saw the pattern correctly. They were just wrong to assume it would continue [00:10:40] indefinitely. What they didn't see coming was the automobile, Ford and [00:10:45] Daimler. And just like that, the problem disappeared.

The lesson is not that those experts were [00:10:50] foolish. They were looking at the best data available to them. The lesson is that no amount of [00:10:55] past data can see around the corner. It doesn't know exists. [00:11:00] Extrapolation almost left them buried in something that we'd frankly all rather avoid. So what's [00:11:05] the takeaway?

The next time you hear returns have been high, so they must be lower going forward, or [00:11:10] returns have been low, so now's a good time to increase my exposure to equities 'cause they're gonna be higher, [00:11:15] just pause and ask yourself a few things. Am I observing a pattern or am I [00:11:20] projecting it forward? What timeframe is being emphasized and why?

Am I looking at the, the [00:11:25] appropriate denominator in the equation? Am I turning a long-term concept into a [00:11:30] short-term prediction? Would I reach the same conclusion if I started the clock five [00:11:35] years earlier or five years later? Because the danger isn't in seeing patterns. [00:11:40] It's believing that they can tell us what comes next.

At Fusion, we [00:11:45] actually believe strongly in using history as a guide, but in the right way. [00:11:50] History teaches us the nature of markets, that declines happen, volatility is normal, and [00:11:55] that long-term ownership has been rewarded over time. What history doesn't give us is [00:12:00] a reliable way to predict the next six, twelve, or even twenty-four months, [00:12:05] especially when we cherry-pick a timeframe to support a narrative, because that's the real [00:12:10] trap.

Conflating a pattern with predictive value. And it's that confusion [00:12:15] more than anything else that leads to decisions that interrupt compounding. [00:12:20] Fix It Friday generally is not about calling the next move. It's about fixing the thinking that [00:12:25] gets in the way of staying invested long enough for compounding to actually work.

[00:12:30] Thanks again for tuning in. Uh, you can catch us on [00:12:35] crazywealthypodcast.com, fusionfamilywealth.com, and all your favorite podcast venues. Until [00:12:40] next time, have a great weekend.

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